Cayenne : SUV That Saved Every Sports Car Brand From Bankruptcy!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2023
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    These days we have one SUV for every task, you want a hatchback get a micro SUV instead, for c segment sedans we have suvs like creta and obviously the OG SUVs are already there I mean the ones with ladder frame chassis
    But do you guys know that even sports cars have there suvs replacements, yes here I am talking about cars like Urus and dbx,
    But it is always not the same today, today in this video you are going to address a legendary SUV that starts this whole movement.
    Yes, here in this video we are talking about the Cayenne.
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  • @rohitbishoyi9095
    @rohitbishoyi9095 11 месяцев назад +94

    The best statement Porsche made several years back was “75% of their vehicles still running on the road” & guess what? There’re lots of 1960s made 911 still running today. Matt Watson used one of them in a drag race couple months back & it really competed with prolific launch control. That’s what make them one of most reliable super/sports car. What a magnificent brand.

    • @daddy_.rome0
      @daddy_.rome0 11 месяцев назад

      Can you please link the Drag race you're talking about

    • @subhamsikdar6263
      @subhamsikdar6263 11 месяцев назад +7

      Yes indeed, Porsche might be looking boring or less exotic in comparison to other brands but they are timeless designs with superb performance engineered to perfection. Its my favourite sports car company

    • @sarthak-a2428
      @sarthak-a2428 11 месяцев назад +2

      But 85% Bentley are still on road.

    • @Chicken_cocknballsoup7376
      @Chicken_cocknballsoup7376 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@sarthak-a2428 85% of modern Bentleys maybe. Bentleys from 90s and older, including majority of British manufacturers had a very bad reputation for having poor reliability. Even today, mclarens, land rovers, Aston martins are less reliable in comparison to Porsche, Audi etc….

    • @ShivamArya-hk7nz
      @ShivamArya-hk7nz 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@sarthak-a2428What?? Old bentleys r hella unreliable.

  • @torukazama2991
    @torukazama2991 11 месяцев назад +80

    Along with the cayenne, Boxster was also one of the cars which had a significant role in saving Porsche during the 1990s...

    • @kala_khatta69
      @kala_khatta69 11 месяцев назад +1

      and the audi rs2 which was co-developed by audi and porsche

    • @dawg7339
      @dawg7339 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@kala_khatta69throw the mercedes 500e in there too

  • @ayushmankar4100
    @ayushmankar4100 11 месяцев назад +170

    Ab sirf MClaren hi bacha hey jishke product line-up mein ek bhi super luxury SUV nahi hey . I hope MClaren should make a high performance super luxury SUV in future to compete with Cullinan , Bentayaga , Hummer EV , DBS-707 , Purosangue , Stelvio , Urus , Cayenne , Grecale , XM , RS-Q8 , G-63 AMG , Eletre , Autobiography SV , Navigator , Escalade V , Century .

    • @AnonymousGuy05
      @AnonymousGuy05 11 месяцев назад +16

      I like how people forget X6m competition which competes with Urus and is faster than XM

    • @ayushmankar4100
      @ayushmankar4100 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​​@@AnonymousGuy05 I think XM is the high performance and most expensive SUV of BMW . While X6M competes with GLC coupe .

    • @mannsherawat2313
      @mannsherawat2313 11 месяцев назад

      Bhai McLaren ki subsidiary company Mercedes SUV bana raha hai.

    • @AnonymousGuy05
      @AnonymousGuy05 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ayushmankar4100X6m smoked Urus both on paper and ground while XM sure is luxurious but not faster, we need to wait for label red for it being considered into competition

    • @AnonymousGuy05
      @AnonymousGuy05 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​​​@@ayushmankar4100Bro X4 competes with Glc coupe both having 6 cylinder engines, why will X6m competition with 4.4L TT V8 compete with it ?

  • @itswolfie777
    @itswolfie777 11 месяцев назад +25

    G wagon is the only suv which actually justifies its price. It's practical, actual off roader, provides luxury and looks classic! My vote will always go to G wagon

    • @JEONJOMON
      @JEONJOMON 11 месяцев назад +18

      No g wagon is very overpriced and overrated

    • @GovindYadav-ny5ei
      @GovindYadav-ny5ei 11 месяцев назад +5

      Bro literally G wagon is just overrated and underpowered car in diesel segment
      You are almost paying 2 crore and still they are giving you engine which is not even producing 300 horsepower

    • @JEONJOMON
      @JEONJOMON 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@GovindYadav-ny5ei and the g400d have more than 300hp

    • @prince7164
      @prince7164 11 месяцев назад +2

      So how many G wagon do you have ??

    • @GovindYadav-ny5ei
      @GovindYadav-ny5ei 11 месяцев назад

      @@JEONJOMON I am talking about 350D diesel

  • @AnonymousGuy05
    @AnonymousGuy05 11 месяцев назад +27

    You forgot to mention that Porsche took inspiration from Bmw X5 which was launched in 1999 and marked the initiation of the segment of making a sporty suv with monocoque chassis with 3.0L I6 / 4.8L is V8 that handled better than others and having thicker tyres from factory for more grip around the corners.

    • @JEONJOMON
      @JEONJOMON 11 месяцев назад

      And bmw took inspiration from merc when they launched ml55 in 1998 the first performance suv

    • @AnonymousGuy05
      @AnonymousGuy05 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​​​​​@@JEONJOMONML 55amg(W163) was launched in 2000 and not 1998, while the M class was launched in 1997(W163) which was not a performance suv and had a ladder frame instead of Monocoque with less thick tyres. It was not untill 2005 that Mercedes introduced W164 platform Unibody SUVs that could handle well on corners too.

  • @GovindYadav-ny5ei
    @GovindYadav-ny5ei 11 месяцев назад +24

    Cayyene's design is timeless
    Best in performance and handling

    • @AbhishekYadav-ws2mg
      @AbhishekYadav-ws2mg 11 месяцев назад +2

      Macan and cayyene design are very similar, only size are different

    • @GovindYadav-ny5ei
      @GovindYadav-ny5ei 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AbhishekYadav-ws2mg yeah
      But cayyene looks better in terms of overall design and perfect family + sports car🙌

  • @tapas1505
    @tapas1505 11 месяцев назад +8

    Only RUclips channel in india that shares so many informations and knowledge that it will take lot many days and time to gain. Hats off biturbo, your hard work is helping a lot many.❤

  • @rajeshtambuskar2503
    @rajeshtambuskar2503 11 месяцев назад +3

    I really want to say that this channel is very informative one , keep up the good work !!!!👍

  • @Sahil_998
    @Sahil_998 11 месяцев назад +19

    We want a collab of Carversal and Biturbo Media❤

  • @vinayyalagach
    @vinayyalagach 11 месяцев назад

    Very informative bro.. keep going 👍🏼

  • @sameersam3809
    @sameersam3809 11 месяцев назад +23

    finally a Indian youtuber pronouncing Porsche correctly❤❤❤❤ warna bade youtubers bhi Porsche ko galat pronounce karte hai 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️.....

    • @omrajgure4553
      @omrajgure4553 11 месяцев назад +2

      It’s not por-sha…….it’s por-sh
      He pronounced it wrong too

    • @train_xc
      @train_xc 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@omrajgure4553it is not por-sh. American pronounce this way and is wrong. It rhymes with Deutsche

  • @vivianjdcosta
    @vivianjdcosta 11 месяцев назад +1

    love your work . keep it up!!!

  • @TheVallum
    @TheVallum 10 месяцев назад +2

    For a car enthusiast, your videos are bed time story❤

  • @pranjalmishra09
    @pranjalmishra09 11 месяцев назад

    Man deserves more love❤

  • @ashishanand1891
    @ashishanand1891 11 месяцев назад +12

    Car industry knowledge increased 1 more level❤

  • @sanjaytiwari2804
    @sanjaytiwari2804 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love to see your work and knowledge about car world and your sense of humour ,systumm 😅 wala bdiya tha

  • @meetshah123
    @meetshah123 11 месяцев назад +1

    Soon 1 million bro❤

  • @Parthainvincibledey_95
    @Parthainvincibledey_95 11 месяцев назад +5

    1:04 Lamborghini: Systumm paad denge😂
    11:00 of G Wagon vertical SUVs.

  • @manishchambriya1991
    @manishchambriya1991 11 месяцев назад

    Thank You For Awesome Automobile Knowledge

  • @vaibhav241992nikam
    @vaibhav241992nikam 11 месяцев назад

    Best work bro 🙌

  • @shivamsachan3035
    @shivamsachan3035 11 месяцев назад

    Bhai aapka content itna accha rahta hai ki main aapka video like pahle karta hu , dekhna baad me start karta hu...keep it up brother 👌🏻👌🏻

  • @chaitanyasabharwal72003
    @chaitanyasabharwal72003 11 месяцев назад +15

    Amazing video! And I love both kinds of SUVs. Boxy or Curvy, SUV is an SUV. And talking about the Porche Cayenne, it's love at first sight 👻
    PS. it doesn't make the Mercedes G class amg bad or anything. It's more like a healthy competition.
    Just like the new Safari and the new Scorpio N. I own the Safari and I'd love to add that both our desi SUVs are capable offroaders, have great city presence and are very good cars. Though the Scorpio clearly beats the Safari in offroading, but still our Desi SUVs are giving superb competition to everyone in India. Isn't it?

    • @flightsimaviationentertainment
      @flightsimaviationentertainment 11 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed is ! Tata Nexon jaise jacked hatchback SUV nhi hai, it’s a terrible car other than safety, if you want safety, go to kushaq tata Bhakts 🙏. Just my opinion, harrier is fine, Safari is great, Scorpio N is best

    • @bismayparida2115
      @bismayparida2115 11 месяцев назад

      @@flightsimaviationentertainment XUV 700? Our family has one and I just love its looks 🤤😩

    • @VarunTomee-kr6nf
      @VarunTomee-kr6nf 6 месяцев назад

      I never liked suvs huge bulky suv looks like truck and not fun to drive

  • @PrathameshBhat7288
    @PrathameshBhat7288 11 месяцев назад

    "hi5, namaste" nice video buddy:-*

  • @naurseakart1190
    @naurseakart1190 11 месяцев назад

    Nice topic👍

  • @allesstudio6688
    @allesstudio6688 10 месяцев назад

    Bro subscribe kr diya hai so continue 🙂

  • @sirddharthoghosh229
    @sirddharthoghosh229 11 месяцев назад +2

    Love from West bengal ❤

  • @Cooltools18786
    @Cooltools18786 11 месяцев назад

    Bro apka Kam bohot genuine hai to apke kam ko pasand kerne wale automatically hi apka channel subscribe ker lete hai

  • @dhanabhaibharwad2841
    @dhanabhaibharwad2841 11 месяцев назад +1

    nice video bhai ab Toyota reliability pe ek pura detail video banao bhai

  • @Akki_000
    @Akki_000 11 месяцев назад

    Love from up❤❤❤

  • @abhidityasingh9444
    @abhidityasingh9444 11 месяцев назад

    Prakash Also joined the System culture...

  • @Thakur_Kartavya_Singh
    @Thakur_Kartavya_Singh 8 месяцев назад

    You should make a video on hummer ev

  • @ihalok2002
    @ihalok2002 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly I found this channel by mistake but now I love the channel so much❤ 3:15

  • @ultimateshootersop875
    @ultimateshootersop875 11 месяцев назад

    Make a video on elite i20 why people love this car so much

  • @akashbirendra13
    @akashbirendra13 11 месяцев назад

    Thumbnail 😍❤️‍🔥

  • @azitkalwar
    @azitkalwar 7 месяцев назад

    Hello Bro 😊, Kiya Aap ak video Porsche & RUF ke uper bana sakte ho plz🙏🏼 q ki dona ka car design kafi similar hai😅

  • @rajusahucarbike4052
    @rajusahucarbike4052 11 месяцев назад

    Hello sir
    Nice video
    Ferrari Purosangue
    Ke bare me details video banaiye

  • @bharathshindhe1454
    @bharathshindhe1454 11 месяцев назад

    Cayenne for life once I start affording it.

  • @bismayparida2115
    @bismayparida2115 11 месяцев назад +10

    Ah yes Cayenne Turbo GT... The fastest SUV on Autobahn.... An incredible speed of 312-15 kmph... Good interior, good brakes, good handling and good storage.... Complete package .

    • @VarunTomee-kr6nf
      @VarunTomee-kr6nf 6 месяцев назад

      Buggati Chiron 414 kph 😂😂😂 almost 100 kph more

    • @bismayparida2115
      @bismayparida2115 6 месяцев назад

      @@VarunTomee-kr6nf buggati is not a sports SUV. How do you compare?

    • @VarunTomee-kr6nf
      @VarunTomee-kr6nf 6 месяцев назад

      @@bismayparida2115 320 kph is common speed even for any sedan

    • @VarunTomee-kr6nf
      @VarunTomee-kr6nf 6 месяцев назад

      @@bismayparida2115 Tesla model s plaid beats any crossover

    • @bismayparida2115
      @bismayparida2115 6 месяцев назад

      @@VarunTomee-kr6nf where the F is your brains at? In your knee or something?

  • @aamirkhan2964
    @aamirkhan2964 5 месяцев назад

    Subscribed...

  • @Challenger_demon_SRT
    @Challenger_demon_SRT 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have seen cayane once in Jaipur 😅😅😊😊

  • @RashidAli-iw8nw
    @RashidAli-iw8nw 11 месяцев назад

    Please make a video explaining about why tractor companies use specific colour for their brand

  • @surabhpatil_7
    @surabhpatil_7 11 месяцев назад +2

    Systummm❤

  • @divitkarekar5803
    @divitkarekar5803 11 месяцев назад

    Please add some caption for Hindi numbers or just say the number in English,didn't understand what is unniso teranwe, great video nonetheless
    Also video recommendation-Types of car bodies like crossovers and SUV and what's the difference between them and why do car bodies like convertible don't work in India and sedan market(specially d segment)is declining in sales

  • @hitenfataniya2715
    @hitenfataniya2715 11 месяцев назад +1

    PLEASE MAKE VIDEO ON MAHINDRA'S mstallion AND mhawk ENGINES 😊😊😊

  • @fahadadhoni2113
    @fahadadhoni2113 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bhai bachpan mai mujhe lagta tha Porsche sorf cayene jaise SUV banNe ke lie he famous hai.

    • @rohan_3128
      @rohan_3128 3 месяца назад +1

      Really ? I got to know them from their sports cars like 911

  • @royaljaat717
    @royaljaat717 8 месяцев назад

    Cayenne is my favourite suv ❤ 🇩🇪

  • @HarpreetSingh-mt5vl
    @HarpreetSingh-mt5vl 11 месяцев назад

    I am from a small town Garhshankar, Punjab even our town have a Porsche Cayenne.😅

  • @ioanbota9397
    @ioanbota9397 11 месяцев назад

    Realy I like it

  • @sharanpatil-ne3ep
    @sharanpatil-ne3ep 11 месяцев назад

    SUV definition is being taken for a ride, but it's really awesome product.

  • @_PRAMIK
    @_PRAMIK 11 месяцев назад

    Please make a video on Porsche 911 aka widow maker

  • @keshavraj8545
    @keshavraj8545 11 месяцев назад

    Make a video on aurus komendant

  • @KartikeyDixit-xs9ot
    @KartikeyDixit-xs9ot 11 месяцев назад

    Bhai ek video aston martin dbx ke upar bhi ki usne apne brand ko kaise save kiya

  • @siddeshh
    @siddeshh 11 месяцев назад +6

    That thing was basically a Volkswagen Touareg with flashy body panels. Anyone who has seen old episodes of BBC Top Gear will know about it.

    • @nikku879
      @nikku879 11 месяцев назад

      Cayenne,urus,q8 and tuareg share the same platform lol

    • @siddeshh
      @siddeshh 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@nikku879 it all started with Touareg.

    • @nikku879
      @nikku879 11 месяцев назад

      @@siddeshh ya i mean 3cr car sharing a platform,chasis,mechanical components and even the engine makes me wonder if the urus is a fancy body kit for a rsq8

  • @tushargurav4550
    @tushargurav4550 11 месяцев назад

    Boss No. 1 (48*18)
    Niyamaat an joraat .

  • @saurabhpaul2443
    @saurabhpaul2443 11 месяцев назад +2

    Pehle road kharab the to sedan chlti thi or ab jab road conditions achi hogyi hai bndo ko SUV Leni hai 😂
    But deep down everyone knows that sedans are more beautiful than suvs

  • @SauravSingh-ic7zc
    @SauravSingh-ic7zc 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love how biturbo's pronunciation of Porsche is perfect, it's read porsha not porsh not porshe.

  • @csstudent-W8
    @csstudent-W8 11 месяцев назад

    Both type depend on situation 😊😊😊

  • @likephysics6170
    @likephysics6170 11 месяцев назад

    Why aura change its front design but not even a bit from back. Is it related to some copy design case by company like ford or astinmartin?

  • @sumitchandan71
    @sumitchandan71 11 месяцев назад

    Video about future of landrover

  • @Huayra234
    @Huayra234 11 месяцев назад

    Sir ji , please FORD F series ke upar ek video banayeye

  • @austin250
    @austin250 3 месяца назад

    Oh that's why this car is common

  • @ayushmankar4100
    @ayushmankar4100 11 месяцев назад +3

    Then why hypercar manufacturer brands like Bugatti , Kioniggesgg , Apollo , Italdesign , Pininfarina , Rimac , W Motors , Pagani , Henessey don't build suvs ?

    • @RoshanKumar-up7rs
      @RoshanKumar-up7rs 11 месяцев назад +2

      All of these hypercar companies are loss making already

    • @ayushmankar4100
      @ayushmankar4100 11 месяцев назад

      @@RoshanKumar-up7rs Ishiliye to bola ki SUVs banaye . Loog unhey kharidenge because SUVs are practical .

    • @RoshanKumar-up7rs
      @RoshanKumar-up7rs 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ayushmankar4100 exactly pininfarina is already been acquired by Mahindra last year

    • @AnonymousGuy05
      @AnonymousGuy05 11 месяцев назад +2

      Maybe selling something like hyper suvs in large number might dilute their image as most hypercars are sold in limited numbers

    • @ayushmankar4100
      @ayushmankar4100 11 месяцев назад

      @@AnonymousGuy05 Then will not last long because of their super exclusive cars .

  • @amey97
    @amey97 11 месяцев назад +1

    Question: Why front engine market was not considered for Porsche? @4:00

  • @akshayvalate205
    @akshayvalate205 11 месяцев назад

    There is paper published on this topic in Harvard publishing which we studied in mba
    Like how porsh lauch suv in US market and convince them to buy these new suv's

  • @devsamal5716
    @devsamal5716 10 месяцев назад

    All Urus loving enthsiast these days, don't even know what a brilliant car Cayenne has been, even today. Probably the best & the most perfect SUV in the world...

  • @vidveshdixit3920
    @vidveshdixit3920 11 месяцев назад

    Very well researched bro.

  • @train_xc
    @train_xc 11 месяцев назад

    Cayenne is probably the major car that deviates itself from Porsche DNA. But most Porsche fans are grateful to Cayenne as it helps Porsche to keep making the “Porsche” cars

  • @starcarreview
    @starcarreview 10 месяцев назад

    Nice bhai❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @itscomplicated2361
    @itscomplicated2361 11 месяцев назад

    Sir plz make a video on rajdoot motorcycle

  • @swapnilbandiwadekar8909
    @swapnilbandiwadekar8909 11 месяцев назад

    G wagon actually deserves the SUV tag.

  • @naurseakart1190
    @naurseakart1190 11 месяцев назад

    Hence, sales matter not ego

  • @Chinmoy-dx8wc
    @Chinmoy-dx8wc 11 месяцев назад

    Bhai Toyota AE86 pe video banao

  • @bhashitkatkar8349
    @bhashitkatkar8349 9 месяцев назад

    That animation of orange Lamborghini 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @adityashukla7849
    @adityashukla7849 11 месяцев назад +1

    10:33 Correct me if I'm wrong but I think use "DB 10" bolenge

  • @0101akki
    @0101akki 11 месяцев назад

    Bhai air suspension se 10inch ground clerence bola aapne it is soo😂😂

  • @kausikgupta6846
    @kausikgupta6846 11 месяцев назад +1

    i PAD of auto industry 😅😅😅

  • @vivekkr9487
    @vivekkr9487 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why Dodge is not entered in Indian market?

    • @rei_2833
      @rei_2833 3 месяца назад

      Who will buy ?

  • @Sunnnyvale
    @Sunnnyvale 11 месяцев назад

    System😂😂 the best

  • @yashkunjir2488
    @yashkunjir2488 11 месяцев назад

    We have a scorpio N 😂 in a sports utility vehicle

  • @prince7164
    @prince7164 11 месяцев назад

    Desi SUVs bahut hai !! Desi sports car aana chaye which are best suitable for India roads 🚗 !!🏎

  • @Hs4m.
    @Hs4m. 11 месяцев назад

    Sir can i have question, i want to buy a car for my father is it Chevrolet Beat good, reliable???

  • @sanjogawaagleee-qs9md
    @sanjogawaagleee-qs9md 11 месяцев назад

    Uhaa le bhane ko kura pani thikkai ho sarai ramro -Sanjoga Waagleee

  • @GamerzLAB-zl6px
    @GamerzLAB-zl6px 14 дней назад

    But Ferrari produced purosangue which looks like a suv but its actually a hatchback

  • @khalidmahmud31
    @khalidmahmud31 11 месяцев назад

    One video for 911 please

  • @Banditxam4
    @Banditxam4 11 месяцев назад +3

    Porsche owns vw and vw owns Porsche per video banao

  • @noonecares7005
    @noonecares7005 11 месяцев назад

    Namaste sir

  • @Imrankhan-su9sr
    @Imrankhan-su9sr 11 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤

  • @TheGame123
    @TheGame123 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ye bhi system ka 14 hai plz mat karo plz 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @hungryavacadoo
    @hungryavacadoo 10 месяцев назад

    Imagine a bugatti suv

  • @amitpagare5946
    @amitpagare5946 11 месяцев назад

    Jai Ho 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @theworld8802
    @theworld8802 11 месяцев назад

    Lagta hai bhai sahab Mahindra k wait m hain....

  • @Johnwick78y
    @Johnwick78y 8 месяцев назад

    Luxury brands provide the best 5 ⭐ safety & compromise on mileage. However, cheaper and Poor brands do not offer Safety Like Suzuki Hyundai Kia in india

    • @rei_2833
      @rei_2833 3 месяца назад

      😂😂 kid go sleep. Suzuki has 3 cars with 4 star safety rating.
      Hyundai has Verna with class leading 5 star safety rating in a proper sedan which no Indian brand has.

  • @user-ih4oh8up2c
    @user-ih4oh8up2c 11 месяцев назад

    all the SUVs in VW grp

  • @Vickyrajput783
    @Vickyrajput783 10 месяцев назад

    G wagon ❤

  • @ayyanghare786
    @ayyanghare786 10 месяцев назад

    Not porsha that's Porsche company also talk about this 😂

  • @user-wo2zk9ov1c
    @user-wo2zk9ov1c 11 месяцев назад

    Before 1hour

  • @optimusace
    @optimusace 11 месяцев назад

    Japan is king of automobiles 🚘

  • @abhiranjansahu7319
    @abhiranjansahu7319 11 месяцев назад

    I like Porshe Cayenne

  • @venukrithish007
    @venukrithish007 11 месяцев назад

    Why no mention of purosangue

    • @AnonymousGuy05
      @AnonymousGuy05 11 месяцев назад +2

      No mention to e53 X5 too which started this segment of sporty SUVs

  • @4cfuture92
    @4cfuture92 11 месяцев назад

    Bhai ne video editor hire kiya hai

    • @BehindTheFlim
      @BehindTheFlim 11 месяцев назад

      Tumhe kaise laga k editor hire Kiya hain

    • @4cfuture92
      @4cfuture92 11 месяцев назад

      @@BehindTheFlim purani videos k comparison se....plus jo thooda sa over do hogai sound effects uss se